Harry otter and the Order of the Phoenix

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Griet von Orkney
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Frag mal Ceron, mit dem diskutier ich über Paralellen zwischen Luke Skywalker und Harry Potter.
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Was kümmern mich die Engelschöre
Was das Geschwätz vom Paradies
Wenn ich der Brüder Singsang höre
Wenn ich das Leben mir begieß
Der Himmel ist mir einerlei und liegt in großer Ferne
Auch kann er nicht viel schöner sein als meine Stammtaverne
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The truth is out there.
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Ich würde das nicht unbedingt "truth" nennen, Norbert. Das ist nichts anderes als eine weitere Gerüchteseite von einem Typen, der sich wichtig machen will und behauptet, das Buch schon gelesen zu haben. Davon gibt's derweil tausende. Aber mal davon abgesehen, decken sich seine Vermutungen 1:1 mit meinen ;-)
Zu fällen einen schönen Baum, braucht's eine halbe Stunde kaum. Zu wachsen bis man ihn bewundert, braucht er - bedenkt es - ein Jahrhundert!
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JudithDahmen hat geschrieben:Aber mal davon abgesehen, decken sich seine Vermutungen

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* Ron dies.
* Lupin dies.
* Percy dies (this death occurs before the wedding, inevitably throwing events into chaos).
* Voldemort dies.
* Snape dies.


Details aret needed. Just say BELLATRIX KILLS RON!

Snaps loyalty? I found this to be the saddest part of the book. As many people guessed, all was not what it seemed with Dumbledore, and the two did indeed have a plan that would eventually result in Snape killing him. But, Snape was only in on things for personal gain, and when Voldemort learns of this, he is obviously furious with Snape. Snape tries to make up for things by luring Harry to him, but Harry manages to escape, and Voldemort kills Snape before the final conflict.

I dot know what all these rumours are about Voldemort kidnapping Ron, is a complete lie. Ron is killed by Bellatrix Lestrange in The Battle of Hogwarts, but Neville manages to finish off Bellatrix after Ron weakens her before his death.

Harry Potter is not a horcrux.

As ve already stated, Voldemort kills Snape.

Voldemort is killed in the Department Of Mysteries. He baits Harry Potter about his parents, Sirius, Dumbledore and Ron. which turns out to be the worst thing Voldemort could have done. As Voldemort steps out into the circular bit with many doors, Harry Potter opens the locked door, and Voldemort is destroyed by the blinding light, which heals Harry Potter, who seems close to death (he does not die).

The cover art shows Voldemort + Harry Potter at the Deathly Hallows, Harry Potter is attempting to summon Voldemors Horcrux, as Voldemort is doing his best to keep the enchantment in place.

No-one loses a body part, no idea where that came from?

Also Harry Potter does not get drunk whoever said that.

Harry Potter does not lose his powers.

Whas the deal with the dragon on the US deluxe cover?

The trio fly on it to get to the Deathly Hallows. Only Harry Potter and Voldemort can fight on the Deathly Hallows, but this is not their final encounter.

Whas happening on the UK kids cover?

Gringotts. The trio are searching for the locket (it isnt there) but they get vital information on Ravenclaws book here.

Hos the epilogue done?

I didt like it. It was in the form of a newspaper article, a sort ofWhere Are They Now thing, 20 years on from the final showdown.

You said Ron dies so what happens to Hermy at the end?

As said, her love life isnt specified. But she becomes a Healer at St. Mungs.

Whas Luna/Hagrid/Weasley twins/Nevills fate?

Becomes editor of Quibbler (her dad passes it on to her)/Remains at Hogwarts to this day/Weasles Wizard Wheezes becomes multinational/Herbology teacher at Hogwarts after Sprous death (old age she isnt killed)

What happens to Volds body in the end?

Completely obliterated by the love from locked room.

What are the horcruxes? How does Harry Potter find and destroy them?

Nagini/Locket/Cup/Ravenclaws Book. Symbol on UK spine is a device that enables Harry Potter to locatesoul fragment if you will, Harry Potter can destroy them a lot more easily than Dumbledore.

Whas the deal with the mirror? How does RAB and Kreacher come into the story?

Sirius has left an almostvoicemai message on the mirror, to advise him on destroying the horcrux. Kreacher has to tell the trio (on Harrs orders) about the history of the symbol and where to find it.

Whas the lies of Dumbledore chapter about?

Neon was right about this, this is to do with the plan with Snape. I dot know if he got lucky because the Grindelwald thing isnt even close.

What happens to all the teachers? Whs new headmaster etc?

McGonagall is new headmistress.

Whas Harrs fate in the end? Job etc?

Becomes an almost freelance Auror but refuses to work for the MoM



Chapter summaries

Dark Lord Ascending

* another first chapter that is not Harrs point of view
* very dark
* first death
* Bellatrix and Voldemort interact


In Memoriam

* back to Harrs point of view
* Dumbledors past
* Rita Skeeter appears here. Apparently, Harry is not pleased.


The Dursleys Departing

* The Dursles leave Privet Drive


The Seven Potters

* Harry, Ron, and Hermione are reunited
* Death Eater attack
* another death
* very intense


Fallen Warrior

* another death
* one person loses a body part
* scenes afterwards set in the Burrow
* Apparently, Harry gets drunk!
* tells what happened with Ollivander


The Ghoul in Pajamas

* general plan discussion all around
* Hermione is scary (lol)


The Will of Albus Dumbledore

* Harrs birthday! Ron gives him a funny gift.
* Minister of Magic is back
* Lupin is acting off


The Wedding

* Weasley relatives, Luns father, and Krum all make ppearances
* Krum argues with Luns father over the symbol
* Dumbledors past again, which is not pleasant
* Kingsley makes an appearance with some bad news.


A Place to Hide

* Harry, Ron, and Hermione leave the Burrow, and run into Death Eaters
* Hermione gets hit on by drunkards
* They go to Grimmauld Place


Kreaches Tale

* Harry finds a letter from his mother saying disturbing things about Dumbledore
* R.A.B. is Sirius brother (everyone knew that, lol)
* lots of complex stuff on Horcruxes


The Bribe

* setting is Grimmauld Place
* Harry has sent Kreacher on an errand
* Kreacher seems to be getting friendlier
* Lupin is still acting off, and states something extremely surprising (off in an easily irritated, jumpy way. Wve also been told that Lupin/Tonks shippers will be over the moon, so, perhaps Tonks is pregnant?)
* Trio find out who has the locket, and they are shocked.


Magic is Might

* Trio plan to get the locket from the ministry


The Muggle-born Registration Commission

* Umbridge
* persecution


The Thief

* Trio leave Grimmauld Place and Kreacher
* Trio stays in the woods.
* Harry sees through mind-link that Voldemort is not in the country, and is looking for a stolen object that has something to do with wands.


The Goblis Revenge

* Ron does something weird.


Godris Hollow

Bathilds Secret

* Someone named Bathilda wrote the History of Magic book. IDK if this has anything to do with anything, but still, might be worth noting.


The Life and Lies of Albus Dumbledore

The Silver Doe

* Hermione is sleeping. Harry sees a Patronus and follows it. It leads him to a thing Dumbledore has left him. He is reunited with Ron. The entire scene with the destruction of the Horcrux and display of Ros insecurities happens.


Xenophilius Lovegood

* The Tale of the Three Brothers
* The Tale of Three Brother is a wizard childres story. The story involves three objects called the Deathly Hallows. Three brothers, three objects, AKA the Deathly Hallows.
* Trio goes to see Luns dad
* He tells them a wizarding fairy story about three objects
* They are called the Deathly Hallow


The Deathly Hallows

* Harry follows lead of DH story instead of Horcrux stuff
* He becomes stupidly obsessed over it, kind of like how he was over Malfoy in HBP
* Makes a huge mistake and gets the triocapture


Malfoy Manor

* A couple of people have died, one important
* Someone else is being kept in the manor
* Someone else dies
* The trio is tortured for info
* Dobby helps them escape
* Another someone else dies


The Wandmaker

Shell Cottage

Gringotts

The Final Hiding Place

The Missing Mirror

The Lost Diadem

The Sacking of Severus Snape

The Battle of Hogwarts

The Elder Wand

The Princs Tale

The Forest Again

Kins Cross

The Flaw in the Plan

Epilogue
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Sicherlich! Da wette ich die Stärke, die die Macht mir verleiht gegen eine von deinen angelesenen Unterichtsstunden in Hellsehen bei Sibille Trelawney. :001
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Du Nase, natürlich bezogen sich meine Vermutungen nur auf die Oberpunkte:

Ron dies.
Percy dies.
Voldemort dies.
Snape dies.

Falls Du nicht glaubst, dass ich mir das selbst so überlegt habe, schau mal auf meine Homepage, wo seit langer Zeit meine Vermutungen zum 7. Teil nachzulesen sind: http://enlothien.de/html/harry_potter_7.html
Zu fällen einen schönen Baum, braucht's eine halbe Stunde kaum. Zu wachsen bis man ihn bewundert, braucht er - bedenkt es - ein Jahrhundert!
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Was kümmern mich die Engelschöre
Was das Geschwätz vom Paradies
Wenn ich der Brüder Singsang höre
Wenn ich das Leben mir begieß
Der Himmel ist mir einerlei und liegt in großer Ferne
Auch kann er nicht viel schöner sein als meine Stammtaverne
Marcus der Kutscher
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Wer hat hier eigentlich behauptet der 5. Film sei so toll?

Ich fand ihn einfach nur schlecht!!!
Mögen die Götter Euch wohlgesonnen sein.
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Also der Spoiler war ja mal.. ;)

N bisschen davon stimmt, aber am Ende des Englischen Buches lebte bei mir noch jemand...

Die Seite ist toll Hobbit. Echt tolle Aktion, die aber trotzdem nichts bewegen wird..
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